Michael Shellenberger talks with Nick O’Malley, National Editor of Climate and the Environment, Sydney Morning Herald
Environmental Progress
JULY 9, 2020
The governor of Florida uses a definition, the governments of New South Wales in Australia use different definitions. The main reason is that the government of Australia, as in California, refused to control burns for both environmental and health reasons. I don't think it's necessarily deliberate, but I think that's the result.
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